does alli really work it's the new fda weight loss pill

[mashio92689]

i? do i still have to diet and excersize

[chelsea catastrophe!]

That's the thing that makes the fats you eat leak out of you if you eat any, right? Ughhh, that sounds so nasty, lol. I'd assume it works, I'm not sure about the diet/exercise part though.

[Steven B]

Ok. Here's the real deal. I work as a pharmacy tech so here's what the manufacturer told us.1. You HAVE to eat less than 15 grams of fat per meal.2. You HAVE to exercise. NO being a couch potato.3. You HAVE to commit to using ALLI for 1 year.4. You will probably lose 15 to 20 pounds in that year time.Also you might expect loose stools and oily discharge. Yuck.So, basically if you do steps 1, 2 and 3 you will lose the weight anyway. What ALLI does is chemically bond the fat you EAT into clumps and you pass it out of the body. But only up to 15 grams of fat per meal, so forget eating a Big Mac and having it work. If you eat more than 15 grams of fat per meal you will have oily discharge. And you have to take 1 pill with the 3 meals a day you're allowed to eat. Don't break the rules. In my opinion I can think of about 5 different and better ways to lose weight, but the most important thing in all of them is that you have to decide to lose weight and commit to it. You can't just take a pill and continue to live your daily lifestyle.

[TVman]

I like the ethos of the above post mostly.

I replied just now to someone else, about Alli and products of type in a similar way, so I won't do it here again.

My response can be found below.

Click Here (http://www.zonemedicine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44446#post44446)

[stracy]

if someone wants to lose weight, then the first thing to do is to cut off all junk foods, start a strict diet and exercise as much as you can take and continue this routine for some months then you will see the results.

[TVman]

That's true, although it's not about exercising as much as you can take per se, it's about quality over quantity.

You really don't need to exceed 5 sessions a week, with about 2 sessions of Cardio from things like Sprints, Interval, HIIT, which stops the body guessing, and then the other sessions with resistance training.

Though of course the use of exerxise is very important in all this. Without it, losing significant weight will be very hard, unless you eat really badly, like say 400 calores a day, in which case yeah, you'll lose mucho weight, but it will be a bad way to do it, and not reccomended.

[flaco]

I think if you follow a diet and exercise regimine as well as take alli it probably would work. The problem is people think that taking a pill will make them loose weight, that simply is not true. You have to put in the work as well, but overall yes it will work if you follow through.

[TVman]

This post isn't meant to disrespect what you said, as I respect your contributions, but the problem with that is, that when you exercise and eat properly, you invalidate the effects of a Fat Burning or Thermogenic product, becasue you have absolute NO way to prove what the product did, in terms of how much extra weight you lost, or how much faster you lost weight.

If these things actually worked, why don't obese people who are still gaining approximately 1/4 lb of weight a week, or stalled on weight gains get given them to take.

Then if the person gaining weight stalls, or the one who isn't loses some, you'd know a product worked.

I don't believe that you need exercise and a good diet, to trigger one of those products off, that's like saying increasing metabolism via such means, helps the product to work, or breakdown / digest better.

The fact is, if you take medications, you don't necessarily need to improve diet or exercise levels to make them work, or you take a product like Vitamin C, or any supplement for that matter, you expect some effects regardless of how you live.

Fat burning products should work, without anything else needing to be done. If they don't, they are obviously flawed, and the fact is, the moment you do anything that can be classed as a contributing factor to weight loss, even if it's drinking 1/2 as much Beer per week, or cutting 200 calories of Fat out of your daily diet, the person taking the product, cannot say how it helped them to lose weight, because you could only do that if you took it alone, with no lifestyle changes.

These things, (Alli included), can cause side effects including Heart problems, and other possible nasties in some cases, and I heard once, that apprently Hydroxycut Hardcore, contains some kind of dye that stains your poop a gingery red colour.

The fact is, the Metabolism is controlled by the Hypothalamus, Pituitary Gland, Thyroid, and Parathyroid to a large exent, and the only time the body needs help, is if there is something like Hypothyroidism, or Hyperthyroidism, or some other Thyroid issue like Hashimotos, in which case you get meds for that, and maybe suregery, and for Parathyroiditis, you get the Adenoma removed.

No Fat Burner or Thermogenic works in my opinion. As one guy on another site I use said once, he took one whilst exercising and eating better, and got good body definition, but when he stopped used the Fat Burner, some of his definition went away.

Answer is, he was probably eating a diet that was healthy, but not strict enough, or not quite enough calories for exercise, to have enough sacrificial calories either, (so the F B may have been covering up for that), from excess water related to Salt intake, or a bit of additional Fat not removed from diet, or maybe something else, that could have been altered, and some apparently healthy foods, can have hidden issues, that only become apparent when you read the labels.

As an example I saw the packaging once, for a packaged meal supposedly containing Pasta, Roasted Mushrooms, and I think Tomato, which sounded healthy, but it contained about 70% of your daily saturate levels GDA, and 4g of Salt, (66% GDA), and that was for one portion, the package was meant for two portions.

If this guy had had a tighter diet, and made sure calories were good enough to fuel exercise, and have some left to burn, (he might have done that with calories), he almost certainly could have gotten quite shredded, and kept it.

If Alli really worke,d I'd expect an Obese person ot be givne some every day, and told to do nothing differemnt from day ot day, but scoff a dose of Alli, and if thye soped gaining weight, or lost some it would work. It's the best way to test these things, in an In Vivo situation, with a pure test no other factors, but most obese people or manufacturers would never agree to that.